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Posted by G lib on 2005-05-13 18:34:42 +0000

Musings on Rollins

(These are my thoughts pulled from the 'hardcore is silly' thread)

Henry Rollins hasn't had anything interesting to say since he once said:
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"And then the Monkey's Eyes, become YOUR eyes!"
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I'm always surprised when someone who I otherwise think is funny, smart, and well-written admits to liking Rollins' spoken word, having read his books, and how powerful his work is and how much it means to them.
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His spoken word is just lame, and I just don't get why all riot-nrrrd boys from way back the 90s (ahem, MikeF and RLadew) still really like him. Can one of you explain it to me? Or maybe Pamsterdam?
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Do I just not get it because I didn't listen to enough Black Flag growing up?

Posted by pamsterdam on 2005-05-13 21:30:42 +0000
I still like Rollins in the same way I still like Morrissey. And I'm not ashamed of liking either. When I was 18, with my first radio show, I decided to play a track from a CD on which a boy who I thought was super hot has scrawled a positive review. I had expected 4 minutes of hardcore punk, during which I could fantasize about the aforementioned super hot boy rubbing his stubbly face all over me. Instead, I got one terrifying second of dead air, followed by:

I know you
You were too short
You had bad skin
You couldn’t talk to them very well
Words didn’t seem to work
They lied when they came out of your mouth
You tried so hard to understand the others
You wanted to be part of what was happening
You saw them having fun
Seemed like such a mystery
Almost magic

You thought that there was something wrong with you
You would look in the mirror trying to find the flaw
You thought that you were ugly
And that everybody was looking at you
So you learned to be invisible
To look down
To avoid conversation

The hours, days, weekends
The weekend nights
Alone
Where were you,
The basement, the attic, your room?
Working some job?
Just to have something to do?
Just to have a place to put yourself?
Just to have a way to get away from them
Staying away from the ones
That made you feel so strange
And ill at ease inside yourself

Did you ever get invited to one of their parties
You sat & wondered if you would go or not
For hours you imagined what might transpire
If they would laugh at you
If you would know what to do
If you would have the right things on
If they would notice that you came from a different planet
Did you get all brave in your thoughts
Like you were going to be able to go in there
Deal with it & have a great time?
Did you think that you might be the “life of the party?”
That all these people were going to talk to you
And you would find out that you were wrong
And that you had a lot of friends
And you weren’t so strange after all?
Did you end up going?
Did they mess with you?
Did they single you out?
Did you find out that you got invited
Because they thought you were so weird?
I think I know you

You spent a lot of time full of hate
A hate that was as pure as sunshine
A hate that saw for miles
A hate that kept you up at night
A hate the filled your every waking moment
A hate that carried you for a long time
Yes, I think I know you

You couldn’t figure out what they saw in the way they lived
Home was not home
Your room was home
A corner was home
Anywhere they weren’t
That was home
I know you

You’re sensitive
You hide it
You fear getting stepped on one more time
It seems that when you show a part of yourself
That is the least bit vulnerable
Someone takes advantage of you
One of them steps on you
They mistake kindness for weakness
But you know the difference
You’ve been the brunt of their weakness for years
Strength is something you know a bit about
You had to be strong to keep yourself alive
You know yourself very well now
You don’t trust people
You know them too well
You try to find a special person
Someone you can be with
Someone you can touch
Someone you can talk to
Someone you won’t feel so strange around
You found that they don’t really exist
You feel closer to people on movie screens
Yea, I think I know you

You spend a lot of time daydreaming
People have made comment to that effect
Telling you that you’re self involved & self centered
But they don’t know, do they
About the long night shifts alone
About the years of keeping yourself company
All the nights you wrapped your arms around yourself
So you could imagine someone holding you
The hours of indecision
Self doubt
The intense depression
The blinding hate
The rage that made you stagger
The devastation of rejection
Well, maybe they do know
But if they do
They sure do a good job of hiding it

It astounds you how they can be so smooth
How they seem to pass thru life
As if life itself was some divine gift
It infuriates you to watch yourself
With your apparent skill in finding every way possible
To screw it up
For you life is a long trip
Terrifying & wonderful
Birds sing to you at night
The rain & the sun
The changing seasons are true friends
Solitude is a hard won ally
Faithful & patient
Yes I think I know you


And that's why I still like him. If you want to know why I still like Morrissey, I'll post the lyrics to "Unloveable" by the Smiths. So. There. It's a bit like what Morrissey sang in "Rubber Ring":
But don't forget the songs
That made you cry
And the songs that saved your life
Yes, you're older now
And you're a clever swine
But they were the only ones who ever stood by you


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Posted by frame609 on 2005-05-14 03:15:01 +0000
That was a nice response, Pammo. I heard 'I Know You' on WUNH as my folks drove me to my first day of college.

I'm interested to know which recent Rollins stuff Glib is basing her argument on. What have you heard/read lately?

Posted by rladew on 2005-05-14 07:04:52 +0000
Im sure as a big fan, all the following is biased, but you asked, so here goes:


Once you have read one rollins 'book', with the exception of 'Get on the Bus' which is pretty essential for the dirt from the Black Flag days (or collection of journals) you have the idea. Its the same as not needing to own more than one cd of the MAke Up or Man Or Astroman.

However, I have always enjoyed Hank as a storyteller. He also contributes pretty cool liner notes to projects like the 20 year Dischord box set, Janes Addiction cds, and weighs in about punk rock in cool documentaries such as <a href= "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275309/">Dogtown and Z - Boys</a>.

I respect how he started a publishing company and how he revitalized many free jazz musicians careers through the 21361 label. (Matthew Shipp, Charles Gayle, although by now I think most of these releases are oop or in cut out bins in some dank mall - sam goody / fye/ recordtown come to mind)

I Love how he does stupid commercials for the Gap and interviews with eMpTyV and VH1 and uses all that PR $$$ and funnels it back into recording / publishing projects that are important to him but not necessarily commercially viable (Nick Cave, Joe Cole etc....)Check out <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0738433/">IMDB</a> to look at the staggering resume of a lot of 'disposable' appearances

I also like Hank's work to help <a href="http://www.wm3.org">the West Memphis 3</a>, and I also respect Rollins's dedication , in the last 2 or three years, to visit troops (a kind of punk rock Bob Hope if you will) in war torn areas abroad including but not limited to Iraq.

Is it possible for one to like literature and also have a 'book' of Rollins? I sure hope so...
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Posted by Rory_Stark on 2005-05-16 13:57:14 +0000
I love Black Flag.

Rollins' stand up is pretty good to.

Can't really listen to the Rollins band without some serious detachment though, but back in the day...yo that guy saved my life.
Or someone's...probably my friend Pete's.

Anyway Rollins seems to have a specific knowledge about touring, the early hardcore/punk scene, and Black Flag that I find pretty intresting. Like, ya know, he knows what he's talking about.
It's obvious he isn't speaking in an ignorant fashion because that would make him full of shit.
Know what I'm sayin'
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Winks like a nod to a blind bat.

Posted by lrf on 2005-05-16 23:55:46 +0000
rollins is awesome

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