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Posted by Rory_Stark on 2005-06-06 13:31:35 +0000

What no Muslim books? These dudes are sure behind the times.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 14:32:00 +0000

Such a helpful list. I'll purge my shelves during the move. How come the Bible and Koran don't make the cut?

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-06 15:08:22 +0000

{sarcasm] I'll bring the marshmallows... goody![sarcasm]I still cant believe anyone would advocate burning any book. Some people feel threatened by ideas, I guess... _______________________________

Posted by Miriam on 2005-06-06 15:46:58 +0000

I don't think they said to burn them. They didn't even mention why they thought they were harmful, or to whom. Besides, it's from a conservative rag.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 15:49:36 +0000

You know how it is, first you're on a list, then you're marked to be remaindered, then you end up in the basement of the Harvard Book Store.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 15:52:52 +0000

rladew has got it: Ideas now considered harmful.

Posted by Frederick the Younger on 2005-06-06 16:03:18 +0000

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Clifford the Big Red Dog~*~*~*~*~*~*~* pure propaganda. read between the lines, people! FtY

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-06 16:19:03 +0000

In the case of this specific website, I agree with you Miriam. However, why is something discredited just because it is "conservative"? Conservative doesn't necessarily mean religous right or radical or fundamentalist, just as "liberal" doesn't necessarily mean tax and spend, bleeding heart, etc. My Unitarian heritage teaches me to value the differences of all people and cultures. Should we add the provision that we should "Value the Differences" Unless they happen to have conservative beliefs? _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-06 16:19:27 +0000

chortle inducing. _______________________________

Posted by Miriam on 2005-06-06 16:32:33 +0000

Didn't mean to generalize. Sorry if I offended.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 16:33:59 +0000

Clifford the Big Red Herring?

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-06 16:40:24 +0000

not at all... just cranky w/out coffee this am.... _______________________________

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-06 18:14:13 +0000

Dewey? Seriously, Dewey made the list? Come on people! Keynes is a stretch, but Dewey? Wow...

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-06 18:16:36 +0000

I think part of it stems from the neo-con leadership in our Government, part of the reason the GOP is moving away from Bush, Delay, and Frist. No conservatives are not bad, but their leaders right now are.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 18:25:32 +0000

Dewey was a redder than red commie, wasn't he? A Vermonter at the very least.

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-06 19:14:40 +0000

Agreed. Bush hasn't vetoed a bill in his 6 (!) years in office. Steel Tariffs, Farm subsidies and other things Bush has done flies in the face of conservatism. I personally thought either presedential candidate in 2004 would leave a huge mess in their wake, only that Bush's might be a little easier to clean up in 2008 than Kerry's.... _______________________________

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-06 19:56:49 +0000

"Commie" meaning community builder, not totalitarian Soviet brand Communist. He nearly single handedly invented "hands on" teaching. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey]Look him up.[/url]

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-06 20:15:16 +0000

That's how I knew he was a Vermonter (aka commie).

Posted by Rory_Stark on 2005-06-06 21:38:46 +0000

No offense Ladewy but I would be pleased as punch if "Conservative" became as deadly a word as "Liberal" in poltical circles.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-06 21:48:12 +0000

Already deadlier, Stark. Already happened

Posted by Rory_Stark on 2005-06-06 21:52:37 +0000

Um...right, that's why there is a Liberal revolution happening in Washington.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-06 22:02:02 +0000

Would you rather be labeled a liberal or a conservative?

Posted by Rory_Stark on 2005-06-06 22:04:13 +0000

If I were running for office and I wanted to win, conservative.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 15:46:36 +0000

Then you'd be a liberal...?

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-07 16:04:40 +0000

It is certainly a double edged sword. Most people, if they think about it enough, will probably be irritated to be pigeonholed / placed in one category or another. _______________________________

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 16:07:43 +0000

True that. Fiscally conservative / socially liberal.

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-07 16:14:07 +0000

I know you'll laugh, but thats how I try to describe myself. _______________________________

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 16:23:43 +0000

Are we all pseudo-libertarians here at rs.n?

Posted by tendiamonds on 2005-06-07 16:43:25 +0000

I used to think I was somewhere betwixt Socialist and Libertarian... which is silly since they are opposite extremes... So I started to figure out where I'm Libertarian and where I'm Socialist. I think I'm Socialist in that I think that anything that I consider to be a requirement should be provided by the government... health care, education... extreme? phone, electric, water... Then my Libertarianism is about social policies: I just don't think the government should legislate any social policy. Abortion, Gay Marriage, etc. I think anyone who speaks of God should be banned from Washington. The more I weigh my opinions, the more I think I'm rather well aligned with the DNC, much to my chagrin, as I consider myself to be an awful lot more liberal than they are... oh well, I'm no longer registered as an independant. If only there were a party that wanted to cut the military budget... I'd probably agree with anything else they had to say if they started with cutting the military in half.

Posted by frame609 on 2005-06-07 17:32:59 +0000

I'm a Sagittarius.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2005-06-07 17:38:54 +0000

Woo-hoo!

Posted by Frederick the Younger on 2005-06-07 17:57:35 +0000

"Are we all pseudo-libertarians here at rs.n?" Bah! Hairsplitters, Nay-Sayers and Pillow-Biters more likely... *ducks and covers* ;o) <------- wink wink

Posted by frame609 on 2005-06-07 18:10:57 +0000

It's funny because it's true.

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-07 18:31:20 +0000

Pillow Biters... LOL _______________________________

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 20:01:09 +0000

Wow, I just read the actual reviews of the books. Who are the Human Events Online? My favorite disconnect: On John Maynard Keynes, "When the business cycle threatens a contraction of industry, and thus of jobs, he (Keynes) argued, the government should run up deficits, borrowing and spending money to spur economic activity. FDR adopted the idea as U.S. policy, and the U.S. government now has a $2.6-trillion annual budget and an $8-trillion dollar debt." Right and todays debt is FDR's fault?

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-07 20:58:33 +0000

What, Congress has nothing to do with the budgeting process?

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 21:03:36 +0000

Nope, and FDR led us down this dark path

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-07 21:11:45 +0000

While we were talking about reading materials. I'm reminded that I wanted to post something to the effect that Franken, Moore, Ivens, et al. should _not_ be considered "Literature of Left". Much like I'd argue that Coulter, Limbaugh, et al. don't represent thoughtful authorship of classically conservative policies. Look for Keynes and Dewey vs. (Adam) Smith and... William F. Buckley Jr.(?) Samuel P. Huntington: left or right?

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-06-07 21:20:09 +0000

Mm... Franken? "Big fat idiot" and "Lies" are blow by blow arguments against Limbaugh, and Bush & Cheney, fairly well documented and generally humorous. I guess it could be argued he's a refuting centrist, but after Air America, it don't see it.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-07 21:37:09 +0000

Franken is pop culture. Just like Limbaugh. I don't take Limbaugh seriously as a philosopher, neither Franken. Franken and Limbaugh are spinning the same news stories, just in different ways. For instance, unless I'm mistaken, neither lays out any thoughtful reasons behind _why_ the government should be in the business of helping people, or otherwise. ---- RE: Woodward A journalist. The White House actually invited him in for interviews for a couple of his latest books. They felt that if people found out more how the so-called war on terror worked, then they would gain support. Trouble is, once people learned how the White House is actually running this Iraq Thingy, they became less supportive. After re-reading the other thread I realized I already made my point about Franken vs. Coulter. It was the Woodward thing that was bugging me. Woodward shouldn't be portrayed as a liberal, he's just reporting.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-07 21:38:38 +0000

Unless freedom of information, transparency in goverment, etc. are now entirely Liberal concerns.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2005-06-08 05:57:09 +0000

Um...[url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pillow+biter&r=d]pillow biters[/url]? Are we sure?

Posted by Miriam on 2005-06-08 14:34:49 +0000

That's the definition of a Southern Democrat. Maybe that's why so many of them get elected to high office.

Posted by tgl on 2005-06-08 15:42:33 +0000

That's right, Bubba C. was high in office.

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-08 16:10:26 +0000

couldn't agree more.... _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-06-08 16:12:46 +0000

thats whay FTY said... (A Chortle was induced when I read pamesterdams post BTW) _______________________________