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Posted by frame609 on 2005-08-02 08:20:57 +0000

Lookout! Records teetering.


Posted by rladew on 2005-08-02 15:47:09 +0000
Just to play Devil's advocate: If lookout agreed to pay Green Day royalties for a work that Green Day created and Lookout were not doing so as was previously agreed, I would argue that Green Day would have a legitimite grievance. Lookout gave Green Day their first exposure. Maybe if they cant pay whats agreed upon , the 2 parties could work something else out so GD could maintain a respectful relationship w/ L/O. But If L/O just isnt paying G/D with no regard to their agreement and no other communication or plan, who's the bastard? _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-02 15:48:51 +0000
I love, BTW, how its Green Day's fault, for the "unemmployment" of 6 Lookout reps. Like its GD's obligation to unconditionally put food in their mouths... _______________________________

Posted by frame609 on 2005-08-02 17:26:42 +0000
Green Day was the last active big band to stay on the label- everyone else jumped ship, probably for a reason.

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-02 17:46:02 +0000
I, think, too that a lot of the comments posted on that website were probably these same "nonconformist" people bellowing "Sellout" @ GD the moment the bands' name first saw print in Maximum Rock and Roll... _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-02 17:48:30 +0000
Do you know, frame, (or anyone else for that matter) The deal(s) with: 1. Dead Kennedys and Alternative Tentacles 2. Butthole Surfers and Touch and Go The only well publicized band/label split I followed in detail was the Negativland/SST fracas... _______________________________

Posted by bizquig3000 on 2005-08-02 18:59:04 +0000
[url=http://www.southern.com/southern/label/TCH/chicagoreader/butthole.html]Here's[/url] your story about T&G.

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-02 19:51:10 +0000
thanks for the excellent read BQ! Who Knows, it could shed a lot of light on the current GD / Lookout situation as well... T& G paying 50% of the royalties to the band... Wow! _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-03 16:48:40 +0000
With apologies to the Evens: It's all downhill from here _______________________________

Posted by tgl on 2005-08-04 02:17:08 +0000
I've read this before, I think. Some great quotes: Coffey: "We can't rely on Shellac or the Jesus Lizard to pay our bills."" Haynes: "This isn't art. If it were art, I'd feel uncomfortable selling it." MacKaye: "If you have an oral contract, lawyers don't get paid. It's kind of perfect that a court would be offended by that."" MacKaye: "If you go for a walk in the park, and it's a beautiful sunny day but four guys jump out of a bush and beat you to the ground and take your money, that doesn't mean you shouldn't go in the park. It means you got robbed.

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