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Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-08-07 03:24:43 +0000

"Fear is the ultimate tool of this government" Very timely -- more so in the USA than Britain I would say. Let's hope people actually take it to heart, instead of just eat popcorn...

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-07 04:06:50 +0000

have you read the graphic novel? I'm excited more Alan Moore is coming to film! _______________________________

Posted by frame609 on 2005-08-07 04:08:56 +0000

Hopefully the Watchmen isn't far behind.

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-07 04:11:24 +0000

The target release IS November 4th. Per the bio on producer Joel Silver _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-07 04:12:08 +0000

that would be great. Terry Gilliam was tied to it at one point, but I think it was scrapped. _______________________________

Posted by mr. mister on 2005-08-08 17:02:18 +0000

WOW this movie is going to be sick. That mask is no joke.

Posted by rladew on 2005-08-08 17:41:16 +0000

This is also from the Vendetta website. Producer Silver (sort of) alludes to the fact he owns the option to the Watchmen. Is it being worked on? Maybe a dork (umm I mean message) board on IMDB or Hollywoodreporter would have more up to date info... Question 10: [V For Vendetta] is such a great piece of material, how did you become acquainted with it, and why did you want to make a movie out of it? Joel Silver: I don't know. Is Alan's name on the movie, though? I don't even know. I mean, he did write the material and he created the material. I read it in '88, when I also read Watchmen for the first time, and I was able to acquire both those at the same time in '88. I was able to acquire Watchmen and V, and over the years, Watchmen changed hands, but I was able to hold onto V, and when the Wachowski Brothers said they really wanted to do it, then we really kind of amped it up again and had it made. I mean, I think Alan is a genius. I think he's incredibly... kind of a visionary, gifted, genius guy, and you know, anything he touches - I also am involved in Swamp Thing , which he's been involved in too - so I keep finding my way back to him. But, you know, he's been very clear with us that he doesn't really want to have anything to do with what, you know, we're doing on these movies, but he does create them, and they're out there in the world, and thankfully, you know, David Lloyd is here, and he was very supportive of what we were doing. I'm just happy that I was able to put this together with an incredible cast - with Natalie, with the boys - and to really, you know, make what I think is a really effective and inspired motion picture. _______________________________

Posted by rladew on 2005-10-25 19:05:41 +0000

I knew Nov 2005 was too good to be true... WB has pushed it to Mar 2006, sez IMDB Dawn, Frame and the ladewtang did see the trailer for 'Walk the Line' with J. Phoneix as the man in black and Reese Witherspoon as June Carter though... hopefully that'll come out sooner rather than later.. _______________________________

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-29 17:46:24 +0000

a little buzz / nod for the film in question that looks to have a March 2006 release. the 2nd Trailer (in bitchin Hi Def as one of the many options nonetheless)is also now available. RSN fieldtrip anyone?

Posted by Honar the librarian on 2005-12-30 20:41:50 +0000

Anyone have a copy of V for Vandetta for me? Frame?

Posted by frame609 on 2005-12-31 04:35:49 +0000

Only if you give the Watchmen back.

Posted by Honar the librarian on 2005-12-31 19:06:13 +0000

Will do. If I succesfully return both Watchmen and V for Vandetta, will you finally allow me to borrow the Preacher?

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-31 21:06:29 +0000

oooohhh.... someones getting a graphic novel itch! :) Good for Honar!

Posted by frame609 on 2006-01-01 08:50:27 +0000

My First Post Of 2006: It's A Dilly, Yo.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-01-02 21:23:11 +0000

(Via Drudge) ACLU keeping it real V for Vendetta style. So awesome. As Null P. quoted: "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-02 21:46:05 +0000

God Bless You Sonny.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-01-03 02:51:32 +0000

Favorite quote: "Redditt Hudson, who heads the ACLU's racial justice program, said, 'It's not like we needed their clearance.'" Makes me proud to be an American. I love this country.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-03 17:20:27 +0000

I love it when cool pulpish noir escapist entertainment becomes a vehicle for DB's politics...

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-01-03 17:43:00 +0000

I thought about starting another thread for the ACLU thing, but it seemed to work here. Sorry, if I take 'V for Vendetta' politics to heart.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-03 18:20:17 +0000

don't apologize... I was just grumbling... hadnt had lunch yet!

Posted by Honar the librarian on 2006-03-16 17:05:31 +0000

NP, are you going to make it into town for the c4rt show on sat? If so, want to hit an earlier show of V for Vendetta? Anyone else? If you aren't, anyone want to go see it with me tomorrow night?

Posted by Miriam on 2006-03-16 17:06:54 +0000

Portman was on the Daily Show last night and made me want to see this even more! I didn't know that the comic was written in response to the Thatcher administration...makes it more intruiging.

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-16 17:42:34 +0000

Great art comes in reaction to Conservative governments. That's what I was told in Tufts' History of Punk, at least.

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-03-16 17:57:11 +0000

Which is why Kids These Days disappoint me so much. That and low test scores.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-03-16 21:46:59 +0000

ie. The 80's

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-03-16 23:27:06 +0000

'cause Gregg Ginn, Exene Cervenka,Ian Mackaye, et. al just wouldn't have been talented or inspired enough enough if their adolesence was spent in the Clinton years? I think you are giving ANY government a little too much credit for these (or any other) talents' output.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-03-16 23:29:34 +0000

C4RT is a go! I have a prior din din engagement. How bout we schedule a RSN IMAX field trip if it is a film worth seeing more than once? The reviews I have read on Rotten Tomatoes have been mixed... I am still crazy excited, though. NYT last weekend had an interesting 'Alan Moore and Hollywood' feature. Bottom line if you haven't guessed it already: HE HATES IT.

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-17 00:02:59 +0000

No and yes. Obviously, their natural talent is not affected. The societal inspirations are completely different. Artists reflect the times they live in. Societal dissonance was greater under Reagan than Clinton. Does anyone pine for the good old days of 1982? Would the Dead Kennedys have thrived anywhere other than California of the late '70s and early '80s under Jerry Brown?

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-03-17 00:09:56 +0000

Artists often comment on government. I think we can all agree on that. How much government inspires such commentary is probably known to very few.

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-17 00:25:35 +0000

I think we can make a guess about the inspirations of Jello Biafra, Henry Rollins and Bruce Springsteen, to name a few. I'd agree that artists are probably not attempting to enter into a dialogue about specific government practices, however, if government is a reflection of society than that must creep into (some) artists's consciousness. Yeah, I said it: Bruce Springsteen is the greatest musical voice in dissent of the Reagan milieu.

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-17 00:26:45 +0000

V for Vendetta is playing at the Jordan's Furniture in Reading. The one with the trapeze lessons. Sayin'.

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-03-17 00:36:00 +0000

Political hardcore started because of Reagan, straight up.

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-17 00:38:47 +0000

I learned it from the Professor!

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-03-17 00:42:29 +0000

What's another word for pirate treasure?

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-17 00:46:35 +0000

Moby Dick.

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-03-17 02:06:16 +0000

That's what it is!

Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-03-17 11:57:01 +0000

It's also playing right here in Natick at the Original Jordan's IMAX. The one with Mardi Gras. Sayin'.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-03-17 12:39:54 +0000

I might hit the 2:05!!! I need to go to Waltham anyways...

Posted by mr. mister on 2006-03-17 14:09:15 +0000

I had a nightmare / dream last night about being in a room with carnivale/v for vendetta mask shapes all over it. I'm gonna revolt against the man!

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-03-17 14:35:48 +0000

I have some AMC passes.....hmmm.....

Posted by cdubrocker on 2006-03-17 14:38:14 +0000

You gotta wait 10 days, I believe.

Posted by cdubrocker on 2006-03-17 17:06:21 +0000

6:30 pm Boston Common. Drinks before at a location TBD.

Posted by Honar the librarian on 2006-03-17 17:24:30 +0000

Call me when you know.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-03-18 02:37:04 +0000

what about non-political hardcore?

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-03-18 03:01:14 +0000

Just got back from the 9:45 pm show in Springfield. Here Goes: 1.Street Fightin' Man 2. What if it had been the Capitol instead of Parliament? (replaying the images from Indepence Day and the Front Cover Of Bad Brains's Debut Tape/LP) 3. Didn't like how they needed to 'modernize' it with awkward references to the internet, bird flu, Iraq, plasma (or at least a huge honking 16:9 flat and wide screen) TV's in V's lair. 4. Did like the overall mise en scene specifically in V's lair (James Cagney posters, swords, incredible music, nice high ceilings,) V. The John Hurt = Hitler imagery was as subtle as a bag of hammers, although coming from a comic book, that and the "t" like imagery of the government's seal made for instant "love to hate" reactions from the audience, myself included.(I also couldn't help but think of the 80's miniseries V when looking at all the black and red. A lot of fun in this context, even though you know you are being manipulated. 6. No way that Stephen Rea's character would have just stood there with drool on his shirt while a beautifully photographed Evey nonchalantly decides to ram parliament with tons of home made c4 7. The roman candleish fireworks garnish of the headlining explosion of the film's climax was dumb. Im sure true revolutionaries really want a bit of Disneyland in their destruction. 8.Tens of Thousands of Guy Fawlkes as an image was awesome. 9."A Graphic Novel Illustrated By David Lloyd"? even though I knew about this from all the press, it still felt weird when watching all the titles. 10. Overall, the most fun Ive had at the movies in a while. Although cartoonish, which I spose is inevitable, and being a bit heavy handed, it was a fun ride, one of which I would love to see again in IMAX where hopefully Springfield hoodsters won't be talking on their cell phones...

Posted by tgl on 2006-03-18 14:37:54 +0000

Oh yeah, there was that non-political hardcore band, the... um...

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-03-20 02:09:19 +0000

I really liked it. Futurist, but not silly. The priest and Evey/Portman scene was killer. Stephen Fry continues to rule. Knives are cool, as was the juke box. I loved the, "A code yellow alert has been declared. There is an eleven pm curfew. This curfew is for your protection," bits. Just so reminesent of the bullshit one hears at T stops. Some satire, some story. I enjoyed the almost nonexistant love-story, very un-Hollywood. Sometimes boring watching a mask whose mouth doesn't move. Editors dream though... (A-)

Posted by Miriam on 2006-03-20 21:34:26 +0000

Saw it in matinee yesterday with a mostly empty theater. LOVED it. Wanted more. Want to read it now.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-03-21 16:07:01 +0000

It's a great film. The timing of it with regard to the London bombings and America's 'War on Terror' either have hurt it or helped. It's certainly better than the Matrix sequels, and I'm really glad it was made. I hope to see it again soon.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-03-21 16:19:15 +0000

(haven't seen it yet, probably waiting for video) I was thinking about this earlier. The Wachowskis had a lot of film clout after they made the first Matrix movie. They were in a position in which Hollywood would allow them to do anything they wanted, essentially for any amount of money. And they chose to make the Matrix sequels. I said it then and I'll say it again now. They should have been run out of town, never allowed to even _see_ a movie again. The Matrix sequels were that offensive.

Posted by Miriam on 2006-03-21 16:46:26 +0000

Although V was a little heavy on churchiness, it wasn't as bad as the Matrix sequels.

Posted by tgl on 2006-07-22 09:58:17 +0000

I get all my movie watching done on planes. "V for Vendetta" was the channel 4 selection on British Airways flights from the UK during the month of July. Channel 1 was "She Hate Me", I believe. Random thoughts: * Is the hooded prisoner imagery in the comic book? I wonder how much of the imprisonment scenes came about from asking: "Is America doing that right now?" * Evey's quick turn from revulsion to love was possibly the most unbelievable part of the storyline. * I appreciated that the civilian police force was the "good guys" within the government, although it was a national police force. * Did I really see a "STOP BUSH" sign in one of the news montages? Maybe I was just superimposing about half the graffiti I've seen in Vienna, Budapest and Bucharest.