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Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-12-20 20:22:20 +0000

Heard of him. Never heard him play.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-20 20:37:25 +0000

Guess Im biased - be happy to send you a cd-R or some such - the new website has a fair amout of free music (pun intended). Some vandermark projects can be hit or miss, but the V5 is one of his flagship groups, not to be missed if you have never seen him. One of the only modern freejazzers I know to be the recipient of a 1999 Macarthur Genius Grant. He used the (privately funded I might add) grant proceeds to fund the Peter Brotzmann tentet's first tour across the US circa 2000 - a juggernaut of a free improv group usually featuring 10 + musicians (Peter Brotzmann, Hamid Drake, Mats Gustafsson, Jeb Bishop, Kent Kessler - all monsters). It came to the Middle east downstairs that year and proceeded to joyously rip my face off.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-12-20 21:54:34 +0000

Odds are it would be a privately funded grant. 'Writer's Market' says over 99% of grants are private. Could just be the written word though... I listened to 'Long Term Fool'. Interesting, quite slow, but not atonal.

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 00:18:05 +0000

Let's hijack this thread! I suggest taking 0.1% of the military's annual budget (so that'd be $450 million a year) and create a blank grant program for people solving civil engineering problems around the global. Much more effective than a firefight in Fallujah. ---- I'm completely down with Feb. 1 (who's on Q?). Even though I always think Van Der Graaf Generator whenever I hear "Vandermark".

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-12-21 01:00:27 +0000

I think of Johnny Van der Mer, the youngest major league baseball player AND the only pitcher to throw back-to-back nohitters.

Posted by frame609 on 2005-12-21 01:21:10 +0000

I think of the A Team. They had a sweet van.

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 01:51:07 +0000

suh-weet!

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 01:52:03 +0000

blank --> block global --> globe (I haven't even got to the first beer this evening...)

Posted by frame609 on 2005-12-21 02:14:32 +0000

Straight to the tap water tonight, eh?

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 02:27:24 +0000

Ayuh. I'm quickly rectifying the situation by imbibing some year-old "Baggywrinkle" barleywine. Potent.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 12:10:47 +0000

this thread = LOL Jandek sidenote: On the links part of the kv.com site, there is a hook up to Seth Tisue's website, which is the CNN site for Jandek fans (My apologies to Chuck D for theiving his metaphor)

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 12:12:55 +0000

:) If DB says 99% of grants are prvately funded, would yr proposal be a grant or a publicly funded social program?

Posted by G lib on 2005-12-21 12:37:39 +0000

Didn't we already discuss philanthropy (i.e. grants) as a way of preserving wealth inter-generationally? I know I spent quite a bit of time on my post, but couldn't search to find it. i.e. My argument probably started with "you know that most large foundations pay their board members upwards of $10-15,000 per year to have one meeting per year to give money away to their alma maters and their prep schools, and it's all above-board and legal? In fact, you can find their tax returns online here?

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 12:45:57 +0000

oh, yeah. I remember that. good point!

Posted by G lib on 2005-12-21 13:03:08 +0000

I actually think that the McArthur Foundation is pretty good, after looking at their tax return. Most of their trustees aren't named 'McArthur, but check out these numbers: In 2003, McArthur *gave out about $4.5 Billion in grants. *paid their top 5 staffers a total of just over 1.2 million total (averaging about $240,000 each) per year. (that is just the top 5, I'm sure that there are millions of other staff people. *Paid their trustees (who don't do much) $3.3 million dollars. Seem fair? I don't think so.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 13:14:35 +0000

It is their money though. If they earned it in the first place, shouldn't they instead of some unrelated entity decide how to spend it?

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 13:57:20 +0000

The members of the MacArthur Foundation Board are spending the MacArthur's money (they are dead, right?). The Board did not earn the money they are spending. Funny how a group of people, not linked genetically, can decide how best to spend money from a third party, and gain praise.

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 14:01:04 +0000

I took NP's support of the MacArthur Foundation (or just their "Genius Grants", they do spend a lot of money on CPB/PBS...) as an indication of support for that method of distributing money to worthwhile projects. There currently exist publicly funded grant programs. Think Medicare. I'm not sure I jive with db's 99%.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 14:09:56 +0000

If the founders of the $$$ designated either the board members, or how the board members would be selected, it would seem to me that said board members have more of a right to control the $$$ than an uninvolved party of the street would.

Posted by tgl on 2005-12-21 14:57:14 +0000

Voting for representatives is a method of designating "board members" who will decide collectively how best to pass out money. The State has a right to collect money from citizens. We may grumble about it, but, if you don't want to pay taxes please live outside of society. If a private foundation can collectively decide to distribute money in a pleasing fashion, there is no reason a body of representatives cannot do so as well.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2005-12-21 15:11:29 +0000

I would say the same thing about government. It's my money...

Posted by Null Protocol on 2005-12-21 15:21:13 +0000

I have and will continue to pay taxes. I have and will continue to grumble about them.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-06 17:26:47 +0000

More poop on the upcoming Boston Vandermark 5 gig Here. Also, Twisted Village hosts a good listing of all the heavyweight free jazzers / improvisers coming through Boston, and they are listing another Vandermark performance on Jan. 13th @ Zeitgiest, I believe...

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-27 17:13:24 +0000

Bump. Heads up that the Vandermark 5 show in Boston / Hyde Park feb 1st is this Wednesday upcoming. directions and times are at http://mim.karayorgis.com/. This guy and his band is no joke. Come and feast yr ears!

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-01-28 05:48:47 +0000

You gonna be in the 'hood, NP? What time?

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-28 13:25:13 +0000

7:00 ish? Im hoping I can get at least one unsuspecting rsn'er to go...

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-01-28 14:15:56 +0000

I have class...

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-01-28 15:09:33 +0000

As do I.

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-01-28 22:02:53 +0000

bitches. tgl? b to the i to the z to the quig3K?

Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-02-03 12:41:25 +0000

Glob's take here.

Posted by tgl on 2006-02-03 14:15:47 +0000

I guess my claim of being "completely down" with going to this event proved false. I did get to cut-up some Cosby on Wednesday, which might have been more satisfying.

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-02-03 18:17:24 +0000

Again: I'll put out "The Shape Of Illbient Turntablism To Come" if you get Weston to produce it.