Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-05-04 12:10:21 +0000
So, you thought Null Protocol was done talking about Star Wars
Not quite.
Lucas always finds a way to extract more cash from his fans...
Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-05-04 12:37:03 +0000
It would be great if NP didn't always talk dollars when it came to StarWars.
Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-05-04 13:03:21 +0000
huh? elaboration would be appreciated...
do you mean Im too cynical about Lucas's recycling of the same essential product? I am a huge fan, wind up getting most of the major releases, but I just like to vent as most of these releases are huge marketing strategies. "Multiple biteas at the same apple" if you will.
I'm sure many people on this board have a huge number of "It would be great if _______ wouldn't post _____________. But the awesome thing is usually if people don't have nice things to say about specific RSN'ers, they dont say anything at all.
Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-05-04 13:20:38 +0000
Much of NP's discussion on Star Wars is about $, like this node.
I will continue to say things that aren't "nice". Not apologizing for speaking my mind. And I flatly disagree, the awesome thing about rs.n is that people do say what they think and do not censor.
Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-05-04 13:33:08 +0000
I thought that NP was through referring to himself in the third person, anyway.
Posted by Null Protocol on 2006-05-04 13:35:05 +0000
If you think Im talking about censorship, you are completely off the mark. Im talking about being a decent human to other people on this board who consider you a friend.
Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-05-04 23:32:29 +0000
I thought NP was encouraging people to only say "nice things". I guess I don't understand what, "if people don't have nice things to say about specific RSN'ers, they don't say anything at all," means then.
My friends are critical and give uncensored feedback. If that's not "being a decent human", I'm glad they aren't. Sorry if NP was being sarcastic and I (yet again) wasn't smart enough to pick up on it.
Posted by Rory_Stark on 2006-05-05 10:28:17 +0000
Where the hell is that Ref?
Posted by tgl on 2006-05-05 10:52:44 +0000
For the sake of critical and straight forward feedback: dawnbixtler, don't be a dick.
There is an interesting discussion as to why the board's most vociferious anti-goverment interventionist is also the one that gripes the most about prices set by a free market. Especially for luxury goods, e.g., Radiohead concert tickets, Ticketmaster "handling" fees, DVD box sets. Your method of initiating this discussion could have been done more effectively.
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The release of the original theatrical cuts of Star Wars 5, 4 and 6 (ordered by preference) makes sense. I could see how Lucas may infuriate his completist fans.
I already own all the Lucas I need: THX-1138 on VHS.
Posted by cdubrocker on 2006-05-05 11:09:02 +0000
And when he releases the original, unaltered trilogy on Digital Video HoloSphere, I will probably be equally annoyed.
Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-05-05 11:52:09 +0000
Was I being a dick? For thinking StarWars discussions would be better if NP's main topic wasn't $$? WTF?
Posted by tgl on 2006-05-05 12:08:44 +0000
Not in your initial post, but I thought you veered into being needling and antagonistic after a few comments.
NP didn't help things by overreacting to your first comment.
Posted by Rideside Ref on 2006-05-05 12:18:07 +0000
Dead ball. Uh, thread.
Posted by pamsterdam on 2006-05-07 13:22:57 +0000
Holy shit, I go to Venice for 3 days and this is what happens on Rideside?!
P.S. I love Bob Dole and Null Protocol. Regardless of whether or not I'd ever vote for either of them, I'd love to have them over for dinner.
Posted by MF DU on 2006-05-08 11:20:46 +0000
Null Protocol = R.I.P.
cant think of any overseas residence I'd rather eat at:
consider yrself 'looked up" if Im ever in Amsterdam (of course after I've gone to a "coffee" bar to drink "coffee"...)
Posted by pamsterdam on 2006-05-08 11:34:40 +0000
Dude, you are so invited.
Funniest Overheard in Amsterdam:
Conservatively-dressed British Twentysomething: "Oooh! You know what I want to do now? (lowers voice, but not quite enough) I want to go to one of those tea bars!"
Posted by MF DU on 2006-05-17 19:04:08 +0000
no more fights, no more politics, just boxcover artwork for the upcoming releases...
Posted by MF DU on 2006-05-18 15:51:41 +0000
digitalbits, one of the foremost sites of home video film enthusiasts seem to be lining up to the same kind of cynicism I originally displayed.
Even though these are the originals, they aren't in anamorphic widescreen and the telecine is off of the 1993 films way before Lucas took the originals and had the negatives restored. seems like a head scratching move given that a great deal of SW fans are also technology enthusiasts.
Here's a snippet from the
article appropriately titled 'Ah, crap. Yeah... it's another f-ing Star Wars rant' :
Bottom line: This notion that Lucasfilm is doing the fans a favor by finally giving them the original versions on DVD in 2006... but in 1993 laserdisc quality... is baloney. In fact, it's unacceptable. Even though most of them probably don't even know what anamorphic means on DVD, or why they should care about it, the fact remains that the fans are getting bilked. We hate to say it, because we've known many of the folks at Lucasfilm for years now. But someone HAS to say it. It needs to be said. Lucasfilm can and should do better. Who knows? Maybe they're already planning to do better for the 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars next year... and this is just one more bite at the pie in the meantime.
Posted by tgl on 2006-05-18 21:12:51 +0000
I have a right arm available for a LaserDisc player.
Posted by Miriam on 2006-05-18 22:18:26 +0000
Doesn't Honar have one?
Posted by Honar the librarian on 2006-05-19 03:15:01 +0000
Yes, if the laser is a needle, and the disc is vinyl. Otherwise, no, not so much. I had a friend in college who had a laserdisc player. It really sucks to have to turn over the discs 3 times just to get through 2001. Including all the times you fall asleep, it takes, like, an entire springbreak just to get through it.
Posted by G lib on 2006-05-19 12:59:11 +0000
PLUS you have to take even MORE breaks in order to brush the seeds and twigs off.
What a pain.
Posted by cdubrocker on 2006-05-19 13:05:37 +0000
But on the other hand, Laserdiscs are big and shiny!
Posted by MF DU on 2006-05-19 13:33:09 +0000
I had one in Newmarket NH for a year or so, it was fun while it lasted - I borrowed a bunch of my film professor's stash and sometimes I wish I still had it for all of the out of print Criterions (of which the 2001 is an excellent example - there are an insane amount of cool features on that that never made it to the cheapo cardstock DVD versionof 2001 which severely needs an upgrade), but ultimately it was more trouble than it was worth...
My laserdisc faves were:
2001
She's Gotta Have It (still not available on DVD - WTF Spike Lee?)
Naked City (the film noir, not the JZ project)
Blade Runner
Midnight Cowboy
Nosferatu
Contempt
Chinatown
Friday
Posted by Honar the librarian on 2006-05-19 22:47:39 +0000
Really, G, haven't you ever heard of a gate-fold?
Posted by MF DU on 2006-05-22 19:41:36 +0000
People are none too happy about these releases.
The SW geeks are pissed!
Gasoline to the fire:
here, here, here< and here (the last link is sponsored by Lucas himself, an official SW website discussion board)