Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-09-12 17:00:09 +0000
The 2006 Massachusetts Ballot
Interesting ballot question I just found out about, coming this Nov.
Beer and wine in Supermarkets? Seems like a good idea to me, and it looks like it'll pass, though I believe it is "non-binding."
Posted by tgl on 2006-09-12 17:16:45 +0000
My local packy is against it. It's in the same parking lot as a Whole Foods. Haven't made up my mind, yet.
Why not sell guns at supermarkets? This is sort of market segregation is unnatural.
Posted by jbcardinale on 2006-09-12 17:49:32 +0000
When I was in central Louisiana, I was in a small supermarket and in one aisle there was ammo (it was deer season) on one side and chips on the other side. Also, in NH & NY, you can buy beer and wine everywhere, it seems the question is do you want to protect the local liquor stores or do you want more consumer convenience.
Posted by MF DU on 2006-09-12 21:48:12 +0000
praise the lord and pass the ammunition
Posted by cdubrocker on 2006-09-13 01:08:48 +0000
My vote is for protecting the local liquor store. I've yet to be inconvenienced by the lack of alcoholic beverages at supermarkets. Is there really that much of a demand for wine, spirits, and beer to be available at the grocery store?
Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-09-14 13:07:47 +0000
Every time I've visited a state in which you may buy beer at grocery stores, (such as now in NC) The grocery stores stock all of the popular (macrobrewed) beers and a token drinkable beer. The liquor stores become fewer and farer between, and specialize in upscale liquor and wine. Premium beer falls by the wayside as neither market can compete successfully in that segment. I have been fine with Red Hook and Sierra Nevada for my vacation, but I would prefer not to live with that as my variety.
Posted by tgl on 2006-09-14 23:38:09 +0000
As beer becomes ubiquitous, quality suffers. It's like Communism. Sure, everyone can have beer, but it'll be barely quaffable.
Funny: in order to improve quality, we have to limit free choice.
Posted by tgl on 2006-09-20 04:08:16 +0000
Alcohol is a drug and a controlled substance. You control something by limiting access to it, I'm voting NO.
Posted by ConorClockwise on 2006-10-05 04:09:53 +0000
"Wine is food", and Question One is wine only (oddly not even beer), and one should be able to buy food in any market. Voting yes.
Posted by tgl on 2006-10-05 04:19:00 +0000
Yeah, I'm having a hard time reconciling a "NO" vote. I think I'll stick with 10D. Wine in grocery stores means lesser quality wine overall. Vote "YES" for Yellowtail.
Posted by ConorClockwise on 2006-10-05 04:28:11 +0000
I disagree.
It might mean lower quality wine in supermarkets, but beer/wine/liquor specialty shops will need to supply better selections to stay in business.
Posted by G lib on 2006-10-05 13:39:56 +0000
I can buy wine and beer in:
Trader Joe's
The local grocery store in Hopkinton
How do they get an exemption? And has it changed anything? Hopkinton still supports a packie-- The star-- that Aub Doyle (Rory's uncle) works in.
The only reason why packies are saying 'no' is that their revenues will drop. Many will still remain open.
Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-10-05 14:01:22 +0000
Should I be shopping at The Star? I've been going to Medway Liquors because it's close, and because my beer guy from Littleton, who also is the regional distributor for BBC, supplies them... I have not been impressed, though. Missing Fallon's in Littleton a lot.
Posted by tgl on 2006-10-05 14:08:26 +0000
Each business may have three licensed locations for beer and wine. Whole Foods on River St. in Cambridge sells wine and beer. The old Bread & Circus, now Whole Foods Prospect St. used to sell, but now does not. Johnny's Foodmaster on Beacon in Somerville sells beer and wine.
Posted by G lib on 2006-10-05 14:20:50 +0000
For a slice of life in good old h-town, it has to be the Star. The Star employs all former teachers-- it's always been that way. Cornell's is also a trip-- that's where all of the townies go to get drunk and play keno every night. I think you'd like it, J.
But I have to say I haven't been to any of these places in a very long time, so I don't know where the good beer selection is, or if Cornell's is still as pleasantly dingy and full of old-timers. It might be yuppified by now.
Posted by mr. mister on 2006-10-05 15:11:17 +0000
trader joe's hefeweizen is not bad. neither are their bohemian beers. I would totally drink Johnny Foodmaster beer if they made it. Maybe huge chain grocery stores could create their own wine and beer and corner the market on ultra cheap stuff but other than that cmon.
Posted by MF DU on 2006-10-05 15:21:21 +0000
Do you guys remember in Repo Man how all the food products in the film were white in surface with a blue stenciled on logo?
Henry Dean Stanton and Emilio sheen were drinking "Beer" and eating "Food - (Meat flavored)"
I remember seeing actual generic groceries like this (except the stenciled lettering was black on a white background) in the mid 80's in the South.
Interesting.
Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-10-05 16:33:06 +0000
Posted by mr. mister on 2006-10-05 17:17:42 +0000
Quality definetely suffers at the mass production level. Market Basket fish and pork just doesn't taste right.
Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-10-05 17:35:03 +0000
Oh, was that any good? I only had "cassette"...
Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-10-05 17:34:50 +0000
That's because they're reverse engineered from soy.
Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-10-05 17:51:35 +0000
The last good PiL album. Stve Vai, Ginger Baker, Bill Laswell.
Posted by ConorClockwise on 2006-10-05 17:57:26 +0000
That 'cassette', I now have...
Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-10-05 18:05:31 +0000
It should have been "cassette tape"
Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-10-05 18:12:44 +0000
I have yet to pick up '12" single.'
Posted by tgl on 2006-10-24 01:23:28 +0000
Looks like I'll be having a hard time justifying my "no on one". Anyone else get the pamphlet on all of this year's ballot questions? I think I might vote Yes for ballot confusion (No. 2) and Yes for collective bargaining for childcare providers (No. 3). Anyone else?
I think I've made up my mind: Patrick/Murray, the all rapist ballot, might get my vote. (Third time I've used that joke.)
Posted by MF DU on 2006-10-24 11:49:21 +0000
Lil Ladew is also for No on One I found out this weekend.
I just got that red handout of all the issues.
Also, there was a good chart in the Sunday Glob this week that mapped the different issues / platforms of Patrick and Healey.
Posted by tommy on 2006-10-24 14:19:24 +0000
I think I'm voting no on #1. I seriously like the idea of a "no more than 3 licenses" rule, in general, for all retail sales. Wine here is just a special case.
Yes on #2 for sure. Haven't yet heard a good argument against #3, so probably Yes, but I haven't thought about it hard either.
I heard Patrick/Murray are going to push for public schools to distribute roofies to any male student who has earned at least one varsity letter.
Posted by tgl on 2006-10-25 03:28:43 +0000
Patrick is a rapist and Healey is frigid. What else do I need to know?
If I vote for Grace Ross, can I make it conditional that she get a better wardrobe?