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Posted by mahatma chani on 2007-04-27 14:03:22 +0000

Speaking of Fox News, my friend Jackie Clarke was on "Hannity and Colmes" earlier this week.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 14:30:36 +0000

I don't think paving is necessary. The issues are much deeper than that and harder to fix without a change of mindset and strategy by people who want to kill each other.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 14:41:17 +0000

yeah, I'm sorry, I am being a little bit of a dick here...

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 14:43:09 +0000

I'm just a little sensitive. It's kind of my job.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 14:48:38 +0000

MF DU isn't far off the mark. It's like recess in third grade and the kids are arguing about the kickball game. One option: Take the ball away.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 15:00:46 +0000

anyhoo, (not that I mind the thread going wherever it will take us) the real focus of this thread was intended to be how entertaining the latest round of the Trump vs. The O' Donnell is.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-04-27 15:23:23 +0000

Rosie rules.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 15:31:13 +0000

I love you to death Epoisses,Trump may be a windbag, but Rosie's an (unfun) windbag. Aside from defying the law in CA on the steps of her courthouse for her marriage which I thought was awesome, She shouts people down, is generally humorless and believes that American leaders would somehow benefit by knocking our own buildings down. yikes

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-04-27 15:31:48 +0000

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 15:33:11 +0000

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 15:36:35 +0000

Rosie O'Donnell, who made her money as a comedian, is humorless. That makes Donald Trump the real estate developer, what then? Although, the third image on the Google search is a keeper:

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 15:38:11 +0000

Re: TGL's images - I love it. Re: Rosie O' Donnell, comedian: Even Lenny Bruce wasn't funny after he lost perspective.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 15:39:34 +0000

I think you need to read the article.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 15:40:43 +0000

Just bought one of these. The old school metal one I had broke one night as I was making dinner. Didn't know what I was missing out on in terms of ease of opening with a new one.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 15:45:47 +0000

My electric one sucks - it is stuck on so I have to plug it in or yank it out to toggle between on/off

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 16:05:01 +0000

Just got one of those new-fangled ones that cut into the side of the can, rather than into the end. Good stuff.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 16:06:14 +0000

"lost perspective" is a euphemism for "dead", right?

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 16:07:19 +0000

I don't need to read the article if it's about a person or persons taking illogical stances RE: Israel/Palestine.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 16:28:36 +0000

that, too, I guess, but by lost perspective, I was thinking about how focused (rightly so, but still) Lenny was on being persecuted for using off color language in his act. from Bruce's wiki: In his later performances, Bruce was known for relating the details of his encounters with the police directly in his comedy routine; his criticism encouraged the police to eye him with maximum scrutiny. These performances often included rants about his court battles over obscenity charges, tirades against fascism and complaints of his denial to the right to free speech. Rosie has become more focused, to the point of obsession some might argue, about the wrongs of our current system and advancing what she thinks would fix our system. I applaud her for speaking her mind on what she thinks is right - but she didn't build her initial following and audience by trying to influence / lead this audience politically, so why should she used her earned status as a non stop political forum? Maybe she should move to CSPAN. All of this would be easier for me to take if she was in politics, but last I checked, she is an entertainer. Where's the entertainment?

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 16:29:38 +0000

This thread would have been so much easier if you all had just called me a motherfucker and left it at that...

Posted by tendiamonds on 2007-04-27 16:36:15 +0000

A few years ago I was reading a 'zine that a friend (who happens to be a shiatsu masseuse) had about consumerism, and it had this blurb about how perfect the Swing Away™ can opener is and how people keep trying to improve the can opener (like, with electrics) and fail to produce anything better. "That's so true!" I giggled to myself. (I may have been stoned) I have since purchased a Zyliss™ side cut safe can opener, and I was so wrong, this is better.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 16:39:15 +0000

thanks for the referral - I will take a look.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 16:39:57 +0000

that's not what it's about

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 16:41:59 +0000

muthah fuckah!

Posted by MF DU on 2007-04-27 16:44:04 +0000

ahhhhh - thats better :)

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-04-27 16:53:27 +0000

Mighta been 'Beer Frame'.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2007-04-27 16:58:41 +0000

That was it. It was great.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-04-27 17:01:16 +0000

The guy who did that zine writes for ESPN now, and maintains this blog.

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2007-04-27 17:25:17 +0000

Great read. I think tgl would side with it.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 17:28:32 +0000

You're right. Thought it was more about the NUJ nincompoopery.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-27 17:30:29 +0000

Just skimmed it. I side with it. Take the ball away. What do you do with third graders that are acting out in order to garner attention? Ignore 'em. Yes, my wife teaches in an elementary school.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 19:00:41 +0000

That was another thread entirely...was disappointed no one bit on that one.

Posted by Miriam on 2007-04-27 19:01:34 +0000

Caught some of Syriana last night, and I think the guy who wrote this piece heard a couple of the rants in that flick.