And qouting myself
This was at the bottom of another very long thread. I admired my own writing far to0 much to let it get burried there. Plus I am just looking for the oppurtunity to have someone slug me in the gut for my own Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
"And as a final point that I pose directly to the people that are ready to stick with Bush, I interject an ethical appeal:
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/507991/
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041028/ts_nm/iraq_deaths_dc_2
Just summarizing the above, estimates range from 10k to 100k civilian Iraqis dead as a result of this war (funny how that does not get a lot of publicity from the so called ‘liberal’ press).
Now considering:
-no WMDs, no Al Qauida connection, no immanent threat- thus no substantive reason to conduct the war-
-no effort given to protect hospital, schools, food supplies and power plants-thus no effort to minimize the plight of the innocent caught up in this
The burdens of these deaths should therefore be squarely placed on the shoulders of our leader. Can you conscionably vote for someone who has been responsible for so many needless deaths and shows not the slightest sign of remorse or acknowledgement of Iraqi civilian death, neither acknowledgement of his mistakes, nor the wherewithal to take the steps to make it better? Even if getting rid of Saddam was a good reason to go to war, a surgeon tasked with removing gangrene from your finger, who subsequently amputates your whole arm, should not be allowed to practice medicine. The conduct of this war places Bush in the category of war criminal, not world leader.
If Kerry had no hope of getting other countries to buy in, if no other leader trusted him, if he had no experience in foreign affairs, I would still be forced by moral principal to place my vote with whoever was most likely to exorcise the ethically void man that sits in the White House today."
100,000, civilians eh? Iraq won't get an apology from GWBush.
I find uncle's moralistic outlash refreshing, however, I'm not entirely sure Bush is devoid of ethics. Bad decisions, inability to question himself, incompetent managerial style, uncurious, all those things. I gotta hope he's disturbed by the chaos in Iraq, but it's not in his political interests to show it.
Not sure Kerry would pass similarly stringent moral test (I'd like to see him be given the opportunity, though). Then again, are uncle's concerns that stringent?
Of course as seen in the light of comparison, going with the 15k number, those 15k people did no more to deserve death then the 3k that died on 911. Makes me feel like shit to pay taxes this year.
...A Republican!
Seriously, though, America's problem: we hold very little regard for the death of non-white people.
the whole alias thing IS a bit silly IMHO but im not one to Out anyone intentionally...
so...
I'm Rich Ladew and:
<b><i>If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I fade to black</b></i>
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<b><i>If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I fade to black</b></i>
And again I say, like the gangrene in your finger, its good that Sadaam is gone, but not at the cost of your whole arms, and not being that Bush left a gaping, pussing, festering stump wound at your shoulder. We need a new doctor.
Secondly, there is just as great suffering in Sudan and Uganda, right now. The most we offer these people are a few support airplanes.
The impetus for the invasion was not the suffering of human beings. Please don't imply that it was.
Of course I dont think we went to Iraq for any other reason than for the prosperity of the United States. If you guys think Sadaam was done fucking with us and wouldn't have gotten stronger, be my guest.
So all the WMDs are in Syria now. Who cares? You dont think they were shooting off bang snaps and pop guns in Desert Storm do you? What about all the Scud missles and the like?
You guys are absolutely right that it probably woldnt have flied with the American public if they laid out all their cards out on the table.
If you guys choose to believe there were absolutely no WMD's, I certainly respect that. I happen to believe they are still well hidden somewhere, I have no proof of this, but my opinion is still a valid one!
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<b><i>If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I fade to black</b></i>
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<b><i>If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack
Maybe you'll love me when I fade to black</b></i>
Dear Dave and Jane,
I have been meaning to make contact for some time now and finding all sorts
of hurdles every time I make a mental note to do so. Then Election Day in
the US has come. I could not pass up this opportunity to ask for an early
Christmas gift for many of us in the rest of the godforsaken world. Please
folks, give us the comfort of knowing that there is a human being in the
White House. It does affect us if we want it or not!
I hope you are both well - and thriving as always. I expect we will be
seeing you Jane, in Spain later this month. We will know then, if you folks
obliged the rest of the world.
Take care and it does make sense to stay in touch you know?
Best from all of us out here!
Ezra