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Posted by bizquig3000 on 2006-07-20 19:09:26 +0000

Grillo told me that when Instruction toured with Helmet, this current "Helmet" was going to be called something else. But the record label said: "uh-uh, Page, we aint putting nothign else out unless it has the 'Helmet' moniker." On a side note, when do we hold this asshole responsible for nu metal?

Posted by tommy on 2006-07-20 22:53:35 +0000

Consider it done!

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-21 02:08:59 +0000

Hmm sounds like holding FNM responsible for funk metal or rap metal. A completely pointless exercise. I don't see Fred Durst being versatile enough to score films, hold his own with artists completely across the landscape such as David Bowie,Trent Reznor, and Caspar Brotzmann, and I certainly don't see the peers that Durst worked with going on in Durst's bands to interesting cult bands such as Handsome or BATTLES. I'd love to hear some of Grillo's stories from their tour, but holding Hamilton responsible for anything other than creating some interesting music seems silly to me. On second thought, maybe we could tar and feather Hamilton for nu metal, Dr. Dre for west coast funk, and every single band that has ever come within 10 miles of emo.

Posted by tommy on 2006-07-21 12:53:08 +0000

I do hold FNM responsible for bad rap metal, just as I hold Basket Full of Puppies responsible for good rap metal. And, I hold Jim Morrison responsible for pretentious faux-poetic frontmen, while grudgingly giving him credit for leather pants. Note: I'm mostly kidding... I don't think Page Hamilton nefariously set out to spawn nu-metal as we know it today for the sole purpose of annoying me. Ditto for say, holding Misters Harley and Davidson responsible for "the bitch fell off" t-shirts. Still, though, if it weren't for them... Aside -- am I alone in thinking that FNM was WAY better when Chuck Mosely was their singer?

Posted by G lib on 2006-07-21 13:05:10 +0000

Ditto for say, holding Misters Harley and Davidson responsible for "the bitch fell off" t-shirts. tommy, will you please peel that t-shirt off a bottle blond roadkill for me at some point? I'd never seen one before, but I REALLY want one.

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-21 13:13:09 +0000

I personally love 'Introduce Yourself' I saw Mosley in 1990 - he had an ultra brief stint with bad brains while the brothers Hudson (HR and Earl) were off doing whatever crazy things that they do- they had a gig @ Boston's defunct Channel nightclub with Slapshot and Sam Black Church. I was 16 and my dad dropped me off. Would I do the same for Maddie? that was a scary crowd for a 16 yr old... still - a lot of fun.

Posted by Rory_Stark on 2006-07-21 13:24:40 +0000

Wait...wasn''t it those damn Beastie Boys who started Nu-Metal.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2006-07-21 13:25:37 +0000

I don't know if you're alone, but I'm not with you. I think FNM should have changed their name with the lineup change, as they had vastly different sounds. We Care A Lot and Introduce Yourself are both excellent albums, but The Real Thing was one of the best albums of its time, and Angel Dust is better. Besides, Mike Patton wouldn't have the liberty to do all the shit that he does now without the cred (deserved or not) he got from FNM, and for that alone we should thank them.

Posted by Rory_Stark on 2006-07-21 13:57:35 +0000

Shit, sorry...It was the soundtrack for Judgement Night.

Posted by tommy on 2006-07-21 14:20:17 +0000

What, you've never been to Hampton Beach?

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-21 16:00:24 +0000

BIOHAZARD!

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-21 16:01:08 +0000

oh yeah -forgot Page's work with Glen Branca and Band Of Susans.

Posted by buzzorhowl on 2006-07-21 16:38:23 +0000

Thr Branca Branca has been dropped.

Posted by dawnbixtler on 2006-07-22 00:38:23 +0000

I remember holding the 'Judgement Night' Soundtrack in my hands before I bought it, thinking "This is it. This is the future of music." Well, I might have been right, but the 'music' turned out to be a pale shade of shit. And yes, FNM was on that album...

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-22 14:35:42 +0000

with the Boo-Ya Tribe

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-22 14:47:03 +0000

I couldn't resist: I had to pull the "J Night" cd out of the collection (unfortunately it is the "street legal" version given out as a promo w/ all the swears buzzrd out - a freebie from the WUNH days). I truly haven't listened to this at all this millenium. When did it come out? 93? We have a lot of tarring and feathering to do! All assholes: -Helmet / House of Pain -Teenage Fan Club / De La Soul -Living Colour / RUN DMC -Biohazard / ONYX -Slayer / ICE T -FNM / Boo YA TRIBE -Sonic Youth / Cypress Hill -Mudhoney / Sir Mix a Lot -Dinosaur JR / DEL The Funky Homosapien -Therapy? / Fatal -Pearl Jam / Cypress Hill

Posted by tommy on 2006-07-24 11:48:40 +0000

I have to admit, I loved the Mudhoney/Mix-a-lot track. Or, well, at least liked it a little. I also had the "Street Legal" version. If I remember correctly, I traded it for a frozen cake at a party in Billerica.

Posted by bizquig3000 on 2006-07-24 14:29:54 +0000

Christ... could you even imagine the recording sessions with Teenage Fanclub and De La Soul or Dinosaur Jr. and Del The Funky Homosapien?

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-25 15:40:07 +0000

Pitchfork's take. Not as bad as I expected. I heard the 2nd track - it reminded me of real early 'Strap It On' era Helmet.

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-28 13:35:36 +0000

'Monochrome' is better than I expected it to be. Some of the tangential guitar stuff, usually occurring in the middle of a song in place of the traditional rock star guitar solo, is still here as it was back in the day. Some of the vocals are kinda so-so and some of the lyrics are plain bad - I cant remember the name of the specific song I'm thinking of, but it starts naming planets and stars - I couldn't get into it. The second cut reminds me of anything from 'Strap It On' and it instanly connected. All in all if you like 'Meantime' and 'Strap it On' before the more experimental Betty, I would reccomend it.

Posted by MF DU on 2006-07-30 23:07:37 +0000

'Monochrome' has made me want a serious dose of Strap It On , Meantime, and Betty. Jackie is in hell. (Luckily she was gone for a good part of the weekend - I tried to show Maddie some Drop D tuning...)