WWW.RIDESIDE.NET

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 14:33:24 +0000

*Maybe there's a clicky menu for different strands: You can see the wholeshebang, or look at the splits: music/film/books/friends/etc. *Maybe not wikipedia, but at least the ability to hyperlink to other pages easily. I think you're right, though: if everyone says it was September, then it doesn't matter when it was.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-29 15:15:20 +0000

The visitor-comments strand: individual moments marked with "Oh yeah, I was at that concert too! Bitchin' show, man!" "Wow--you were really a loser in junior high, weren't you?" "Hey, is it OK if I use that photo of you for my school project on '70s hairstyles?"

Posted by G lib on 2007-03-29 15:40:52 +0000

I really like the slidey bar in this feature, (although the rickets aspect of this is kind of gross.) But this kind of more basic (non-flash) slidey bar might make more sense. The bottom part has dates going back and forth...

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 15:46:25 +0000

Are comments on a strand (well, yeah... you could order comments chronologically *gasp* ...or Threaded!) or are the attached to an event/shared event?

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 15:53:38 +0000

Comments should be attached to tags (books, events, etc.), not strands.

Posted by G lib on 2007-03-29 15:58:02 +0000

yes. And then they should be threaded.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 16:01:13 +0000

I'm *already* confused about threads and strands. Am I correct in assuming that strands are parralel-by-subject lines, and threads connect similar events by user?

Posted by MF DU on 2007-03-29 16:13:47 +0000

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 16:17:35 +0000

Tags or categories are descriptors. Are we interested in commenting on the book descriptor? Maybe we are... The tag is the thing or the thing is tagged? This may be difficult... Are you interested in seeing when everyone else in your circle or all users have read a specific book? I can make an entry for when I read a book (some entries have durations, some entries are milestones) how do I search for other entries of the same book? I guess we rely on users to tag the entry with title and author information and/or create a meaningful subject line. Again, if we try to conceive of a data model and attribute beforehand, we will fail. Better to let these things evolve lazily. Comments on events/entries/milestones. Allow people to share events/entries/milestones.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 16:18:15 +0000

threads == strands, I think.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 16:21:09 +0000

* IMPORTANT BUSINESS MODEL --> EVENT PLANNING Anyone can enter past events/entries/milestones. Subscription service to enter future events (which is evite.com or mypunchbowl.com.... nevermind).

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 16:22:45 +0000

Shit's gotta be free.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 16:25:31 +0000

If the parralel lines are broken up into subjects, then searching 'books' for 'John Irving' will be pretty easy. Subject line?

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 16:25:48 +0000

Clarify?

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 16:41:53 +0000

They are the same thing. Timeline, strand, thread. Although, we are interested (or we think we should be interested) in events/entries that tie one user's timeline/strand/thread with another's. The tie, intersection?, is interesting too... Would it be neat to see the "flow" of a book, LP, mountain summit, across user's strands?

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 16:48:19 +0000

The intersection would serve to pull in new users -- the Brunkhorst example. Similar interests/milestones would help users to search for each other/might get you laid.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-03-29 16:54:25 +0000

speak for yourself.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 17:09:16 +0000

I was thinking that like a forum post, you'd have a topic or subject line and then the body or content. Each user has one line. Events or entries on the line are tagged with: "book, John Irving, World According to Garp" or "album, music, Nation of Ulysses, Thirteen Point Plan to Destroy America". You search for "book" to get versions of each users line (or each user you are a contact of or each user that has public entries tagged with "book"). Then you might see a bunch of parallel lines. Search for "World According to Garp" and you'd see one line and all the intersection points would lead you to other user's entries. Since netizens of rs.n are reluctant to use freetagging to describe blog posts and prefer forum categories, maybe the categories should be enforced. But this stuff is cool!

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 17:16:04 +0000

Enforced categories could make things more visually appealing.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-29 17:26:47 +0000

myspace free or flickr free?

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-29 17:31:06 +0000

Myspace free -- easy to sell ads.

Posted by MF DU on 2007-03-29 17:31:09 +0000

Dreams Are Free, Motherfucker!

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-30 11:10:57 +0000

Bells and whistles: --When the "music" strand is one of the ones opened on the screen, scrolling to a given point in your life will activate a sound file, playing the music you were listening to closest to that point in your life. --Some strands contain only quantitative data (or, to put it differently, some tags can only be applied to numerical-data nodes). User can then call up graphs plotting variable x against time (sales of one's history-of-punk book on Amazon, say, or the daily temperature at one's backyard thermometer) or scatter plots showing variable x against y (say, the number of miles one jogs each week against one's mean systolic BP for that week).

Posted by MF DU on 2007-03-30 12:40:33 +0000

Im trying despperately to understand this thread - Im assuming that this has to do with some of the RSN changes that were made. Help, anyone?

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-30 13:38:56 +0000

ssshhhh...TOP SECRET!

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-30 14:49:35 +0000

I like the notion of the sound file, but licensing is going to be a bitch.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-30 15:25:42 +0000

They're NOT the same thing! I'm pretty sure G lib and Epoisses' idea of "threads" is synonymous with the RSN/internet: posts (comments) arranged in some kind of structure that's chronological by posting time, not by the time of the event they discuss. Yesno? Comments are attached to nodes rather than to strands, but they should all have the tag "comment" so that the user can then view them as a strand in parallel with and synchronized with the series life-events they pertain to. Replies to comments and comments-on-comments exist on threads, which aren't part of the same visualized timespace as the strands; one would have to call them up in a separate window by clicking on a particular comment node.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-30 15:36:31 +0000

I have this picture in my head of parralel lines, organized by subject/genre, which users can tag in reference to chronology: "Empire Strikes Back, May 1980." So, you can click on the user's Empire box to see comments on it, and to cross-reference everyone else who says they saw it that month. I think we're saying the same thing.

Posted by G lib on 2007-03-30 16:58:11 +0000

agreed.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-30 18:43:51 +0000

Yes, each user has one overall timeline, but it's separable into indivdual strands corresponding to the tags on the nodes, so if I want to just compare (say) what I was reading at a particular point in my life with what my changing political beliefs were, I can just call up two parallel strands and see them laid out next to each other for clarity.

Posted by G lib on 2007-03-30 19:09:46 +0000

PChippy came up with an idea of a timeline networking website that TGL and StinkyCheese (and pretty much everyone else at that Q) latched on to. You don't know much more than what is posted here, except you haven't seen the piece of paper that SC drew a mock of the idea onto. This piece of paper is (of course) going to make us 10 Million dollars each in the next couple of ideas. C'mon Chippy, tell MF (and 10D and everyone else) what the idea is, so he doesn't feel excluded.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-30 19:13:56 +0000

Bingo.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-30 19:14:49 +0000

It's going on eBay for five mil -- DU, hometown discount, 2.5 million.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-30 19:17:50 +0000

I don't think we try to host content like that. At least, not at first. External links only... can you embed links to last.fm?

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-31 11:57:23 +0000

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-03-31 12:26:18 +0000

The picture in my head!

Posted by MF DU on 2007-03-31 13:05:43 +0000

Wow - great idea PCHIPPY - even if it takes me a week to "get it" (;0 )

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-31 15:34:05 +0000

No, wait:

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-31 15:38:19 +0000

Of course, one would want the assistance of a proper graphic designer to give it a sexier look.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-03-31 15:40:53 +0000

With maybe a little less grey.

Posted by tgl on 2007-03-31 19:34:27 +0000

We can get one of those.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-04-01 10:48:48 +0000

A few small adjustments to the waxwork: This shows it with optional duration-view feature turned on, so the residence in different houses is more easily visualized. Labels have shifted to middle of each tenancy. Also, added "Scale" button. Viewers can select a view in which each tick-mark represents a decade, five years, a year, half a year, or a month. Someday (maybe on the premium package) this gets extended in both directions: fifty years, 100 years, 500 years, 1000 years, 5000 years for the sake of historians and geologists, and a week, a day, half a day, and hour, half an hour, a minute, thirty seconds, and one second for the sake of wedding planners, NASA launch directors, and choreographers. Possible new bell/whistle: The representative photo gallery. Users upload photos and tag them (a la Flickr). But rather than appearing as nodes on one's "friends" or "pets" strands (or whatever), photos tagged "gallery" appear only in the photo gallery--a band of images at the bottom of the screen. Each time the user selects a given combination of ordinary strands for viewing--say, "Houses" and "Friends" as in the waxworks above--the gallery will (if you have it turned on) randomly select one image from each time interval (say, five years as in the waxworks above) that is tagged with one of the appropriate tags; if the user uses the "Scale" button to zoom in on a smaller portion of his or her life, the gallery will recompose itself with images from correspondingly smaller intervals, if they're available. Does that make sense?

Posted by pchippy on 2007-04-01 11:49:56 +0000

(or via external links rather than uploading if we don't want to host images ourselves, of course). Something like this, for instance. Or is this too busy?

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-01 17:01:58 +0000

I'm backtracking a bit. I'm finding I need all this standard weblog stuff (posts and comments and tags oh my), I might as well modify a blog package than recreate all that stuff. The difference is: posts can have durations (at least a "start_date" different than the "created_at" stamp) and locations. The big kahuna difference that no one has thought of before: time/space strands.

Posted by Epoisses on 2007-04-01 20:47:08 +0000

I know a good one who plays in like ten bands and Makes Mondays Tuesdays.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-01 22:29:43 +0000

Backtracking again... the blog packages have too much stuff. Better to start small.

Posted by pchippy on 2007-04-06 14:56:02 +0000

Possible bell/whistle: node ghosts. A special feature you can activate on a particularly important node (say, one's birth date, or one's wedding day) that causes little ghost nodes to appear on the timeline (which strand? not sure yet) at one-year intervals to mark the anniversary.

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-06 15:01:41 +0000

http://www.decades.com/

Posted by tgl on 2007-04-07 12:52:50 +0000

I know it's not an event planning app, but it could be: http://upcoming.org/

Posted by tgl on 2007-07-23 19:22:29 +0000

http://eachday.com/

Posted by pchippy on 2007-07-24 03:04:10 +0000

Wow. Looks like it has a lot of bells and whistles. Had to hunt around a little to get the timeline feature. Seems like it's primarily for photos, though, not for text or sound files. I still like the idea of being able to juxtapose two or more themed timelines. Haven't seen that from other sites yet.

Posted by tgl on 2007-09-19 03:54:41 +0000

http://ourstory.com

Posted by tgl on 2007-12-21 23:20:00 +0000

how can i create a 2007 timeline? try http://strnds.com!

Posted by tgl on 2008-02-01 02:02:22 +0000

mofos

Posted by tgl on 2008-02-01 04:38:19 +0000

timemap!

Posted by pchippy on 2008-02-01 11:15:31 +0000

That one looks fairly familiar.

Posted by pchippy on 2008-02-01 11:16:09 +0000

Their name is pretty lame, though.

Posted by tgl on 2008-02-01 13:47:00 +0000

Made a couple updates last night: strnds.com. Next is to display feeds from other blogs/websites, multi-strand display, user strands and "strand" clouds, and the key display: "Which other users where at the same time/space as me so that I might get laid?"

Posted by tgl on 2008-07-16 01:06:09 +0000

http://www.swurl.com/