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Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-01 16:45:10 +0000

2008 WBCN Rumble Thread

Here we go: April 6: Me and Joan Collins, Disappearer, Watts and Girls Guns & Glory. April 7: Wild Zero, Andrea Gillis, Daniel Bon & Future Ghosts and Cortez. April 8: Dirt Mall, the Shills, HUMANWINE and the Murder Mile. April 10: Cheater Pint, Clouds, On the Drop and the Men. April 11: Medicated Kisses, Hel Toro, the Great Bandini and Forgetful Jones. April 12: Jason Bennett and the Resistance, A.K.A.C.O.D., Genuflect and Cherry S/T.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-01 16:49:51 +0000
Can I get a Cliffs Notes on this? The only band name I recognise is HUMANWINE, and I think they're a Grateful Dead cover band. Um... right?

Posted by MF DU on 2008-03-01 18:02:09 +0000
Pamsterdam is right. I am now officially Boston band illiterate.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-03-03 18:51:23 +0000
Andrea Gillis is in the Rudds. Murder Mile is Mike Gill from the Damn Personal's new band. Clouds is Adam from Cave In's project. The Great Bandini is ex members of the Confidence Men. A.K.A.C.O.D. is the rest of Morphine. Also so much for that "band can't have been involved with a major label" rule. HUMANWINE's first CD was funded by Warner Bros.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-03 18:56:12 +0000
Aha! Extremely helpful, Mahatma - thank you. A.K.A.C.O.D. sounds interesting, at least given their D.N.A., so to speak. And Clouds.

Posted by Miriam on 2008-03-03 19:19:20 +0000
Sounds like most of them were at parties at the Malbert at one point or another...or at least on a bill with at least one of the bands which played the infamous Malbert party.

Posted by tommy on 2008-03-04 00:20:33 +0000
Also, Wild Zero features Clay N. Ferno, formerly of the Humanoids.

Posted by heave hearted on 2008-03-04 03:16:44 +0000
The men are guys from lost city angels, victory at sea and sam black church

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-04 05:15:03 +0000
There were bands at that party?! After Damian arrived, I remember very little. Something about brownies and pint glasses of gin & tonic. And, obviously, the cops. Or was that not the infamous party?

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-04 05:16:33 +0000
I like their name (The Men) - good to know their pedigree too! Thank you, hh.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-03-04 12:52:36 +0000
Cheater Pint is Meghan McLaughlin's new band, too.

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-03-04 17:47:04 +0000
Meghan's not listed in their myspace page.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-03-04 19:39:44 +0000
Maybe she got kicked out for her drinking? (ducks)

Posted by tommy on 2008-03-04 19:43:19 +0000
Hoof hearted?

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-04 20:17:48 +0000
Oh snap!

Posted by G lib on 2008-03-04 20:37:20 +0000
I just went searching for my rideside comment about this from aaaaaages ago, but I couldn't find it. I remember being in Shay's, seeing her, noticing that she looked really rough, and overhearing her tell someone that she wasn't in a band anymore. And this was the last time it was warm out, so like, July of 07?

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-03-05 22:07:09 +0000
Took a listen to all these Rumblers today. There's a serious lack of variety in there. Way too much generic rock/emo/guitars in general; no less than (count 'em) four full-blown metal bands. Where's the keyboards? You mean to tell me there's not one neo-new wave band out there? Fantasy Mirrors, maybe? While we're here, where's The Luxury, Hallelujah The Hills, Motherboar, Ketman and Hooray For Earth? Djoo turn it down doublegroundsuperfinemustard? Come back Shred! All is forgiven! Anyway, my picks to win it (based mostly on the bands' myspace pages, and a little on knowing how this contest usually plays out) are as follows: Girls Guns And Glory, Cortez, HUMANWINE, The Men, The Great Bandini, and A.K.A.C.O.D.

Posted by HUMANWINE on 2008-03-26 03:59:01 +0000
If we could chime in here for a bit. In the case of HUMANWINE v.s. Having a Record Deal We find HUMANWINE not-guilty of being signed to a Major Record Label or any other label besides their own. HUMANWINE has had it's own record label called Nervous Relatives Records since 2001. In 2004 Jac Holzman the founder of Elektra Records asked HUMANWINE to sign a deal with him that would grant permission for him to sell HUMANWINE's songs for a 3 month time period for something like 90% of all the profits, basically to get our name out there. HUMANWINE granted "Cordless" (WMG) now on Ryko the rights for to sell 4 songs for a 3 month time frame. They renewed the contract once. After Cordless moved to Ryko in 2007. HUMANWINE decided not to renew another contract.

Posted by HUMANWINE on 2008-03-26 04:02:38 +0000
Nervous Relatives Records created a page on-line that boasts "Rumble coverage with a HUMANWINE slant", on this site you will find links for every band involved as well as the time slots and dates for Round I. HUMANWINE.org/RUMBLE

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-26 06:44:11 +0000
Huh.

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-26 06:08:02 +0000
Kill me.

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-26 06:10:18 +0000

Posted by tommy on 2008-03-26 12:44:16 +0000
POTD.

Posted by HUMANWINE on 2008-03-26 20:06:22 +0000
It's funny you would post a pic of spam when there is a whole blog here about the fact that folks are saying they don't know any of the bands involved. The site we gave a link to has links to every band involved. Since when is a learning tool spam.

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-27 03:01:02 +0000

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-03-27 11:36:53 +0000
Hey HUMANWINE... I've played three shows with you guys way back when; as well as seen a couple of your shows that we weren't playing together. So I feel I kinda know you guys. A word of advice about the Rumble: Don't take this shit so fucking seriously! Sure, try and win it or go as far as you can cuz the loot and prizes always help struggling bands. But posting on each and every message board to clear your name (while I don't think anybody on this board was dissing you in the first place) is a task similar to tilting at windmills. It's just not worth it. Besides, should you win the whole shooting match, there won't be enough hours in the day to fight all the new haters you'll have accrued. Ask Adam Glasseye or Brian Doll, they know. I know. It'll be inevitable. Now Dirt Mall and the Shills are terrible bands, so do your best to beat the Murder Mile, will you? Quality website you put together for the other bands, too. Nice sportsman-like touch.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2008-03-27 12:05:58 +0000
No no, HUMANWINE's right, this is what you mean:

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-27 17:05:22 +0000
You're right, 10D. I stand corrected.

Posted by MF DU on 2008-03-27 17:42:57 +0000
I have suddenly become a huge fan of the music of Dirt Mall, the Shills, and the Murder Mile. I'm pulling for any of them on April 8th!

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-03-27 18:17:16 +0000
Please ignore dyedon8 on this one, HUMANWINE. I think he may not like your music. However, I am sure he and the rest of us enjoy new members' comments. I did lights for you guys last year at a venue in Allston, and thoroughly enjoyed the whole shebang. Welcome to rs.n.

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-27 18:27:52 +0000
I'm all for new members.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2008-03-27 18:28:32 +0000

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-03-27 18:30:28 +0000
A+.

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-03-27 18:44:00 +0000

Posted by Miriam on 2008-03-28 16:03:35 +0000
Totally my jam from 4th-8th grades.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-28 16:55:00 +0000
Wait - you were a French Horn player too?! And 4th to 8th grades as well? Spooky!

Posted by Miriam on 2008-03-28 20:25:32 +0000
Totally! When I first started playing it was bigger than I was, and I was horrible. By the time I was in 7th grade I was pretty good, but gave it up when I was told that I'd have to be in the marching band in high school. As soon as I saw the heavy polyester uniforms I said, "No thanks." Couldn't see myself in one of them, nor imagine how nasty it would be after a football game in the September heat in Knoxville. Too bad, too...I really wanted to play in the youth orchestra in town. C'est la vie!

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-29 02:05:32 +0000
When I was 9 years old I asked my parents for a cherry red Fender stratocaster, and I got a classical guitar and several Segovia records instead. They paid for lessons, but when I told the teacher that I only cared about learning how to play songs by Hendrix and the Who, he told me I had the wrong instrument. And my parents refused to get me an electric guitar. So I took up the French Horn because all the funny nerds played drums or trumpet or trombone, so I got to sit next to them in band practice. I dropped out when I was 13 and realised that the hot boys who played electric guitar were more likely to be intrigued by insipid fans than by band nerds. More likely to be, but not guaranteed to be. Stupid teen years.

Posted by tgl on 2008-03-29 14:00:05 +0000
What's the difference between playing the French Horn and pissing your pants?

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-29 15:42:21 +0000
This is either a pleasingly surreal hypothetical question or an intriguing first-half of a "boom boom" joke. I'll bite - what IS the difference between playing the French Horn and pissing your pants?

Posted by tgl on 2008-03-29 17:20:16 +0000
Both result in a warm feeling, but no one cares if you're playing the French Horn.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-03-29 17:41:18 +0000
Boom boom!

Posted by Miriam on 2008-04-01 16:19:22 +0000
1) Someone's bound to notice you've pissed your pants. 2) You won't be out of breath after pissing yourself.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-04-01 18:53:24 +0000
However... ...either way the floor directly under you gets wet. Remember the drool-drain?

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-04-01 19:08:00 +0000
Sorry, the technical term is "spit valve". A visual (you know you want one): Apologies for the really disgusting commercial which precedes the horn bit. <DELETED> Ed.: can't stand this video

Posted by staleoldfart on 2008-04-01 19:29:22 +0000
I can remember when the Rumble was wicked pissah. And bands didn't have chat boards to self promote themselves.

Posted by Miriam on 2008-04-01 21:23:33 +0000
How could I possibly forget the spit valve?!

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-04-02 07:29:37 +0000
The first Outback Steakhouse ad in the history of rs.n!

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-04-02 08:08:51 +0000
Dude, I am so sorry. Shit is vile. But strangely I couldn't find any other video clips about spit valves...

Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2008-04-04 19:16:33 +0000
The Herald's Odds.

Posted by HUMANWINE on 2008-04-09 19:26:52 +0000
As far as posting here to "clear our name" goes. Take yourself out of your comfortable one-way glass of the world that is virtual and imagine someone was posting on a site that you were cheating on your girlfriend/boyfriend or that you raped their sister/brother. What do you do? Do you take the few minutes to post the facts or do you "play it cool" and ignore that it even happened? to us, it's simple, we take a few minutes to post the truth because it's easy and it's the truth. As far as this whole spam, tooting our own horn bit goes...We walked into a post that was conveying a common message of disinformation about this year's Rumble. As bearers of the current information we posted our Rumble fact sheet page. When you're D.I.Y you use every opportunity to tell folks about what you're up to. We like to do things thoroughly around here and do it ourselves. We do all our own promotion. We don't hire a publicity firm to make us look like the cool kids who just get "written about" all the time, we hit the boards and the streets and we're following a long tradition of bands who have done it before us. Grassroots organizing is not "un-cool". It's actually very awesome. It might seem like the "cool thing" act like you don't care about anything but we're all about honesty over here. We are honestly excited to learn about the Rumble and the bands that are in it especially this year, because we are in it. The bands must be excited about it or they wouldn't have accepted the invitation from WBCN. That's we we created a comprehensive page for the event. Honesty is cool. We're not looking for people to agree with our songs and our lifestyle at all, it's just still somehow surprise how low the bar is when it comes to bratty chatters. To the grown-ups here. Thanks for being real. We appreciate the warmth rather than the 3rd grade style catty chat board crap that only continues to separate us and prove how serious insecurities can muddle an issue. word. HUMANWINE

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-04-09 19:29:28 +0000
Cool.

Posted by tendiamonds on 2008-04-09 19:51:00 +0000
<DELETED> Ed.: almost as bad as the spit valve video

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-04-09 20:38:00 +0000
Cool.

Posted by Earth Crisis Face on 2008-04-09 21:41:32 +0000
I LOVE humanwine THEY ARE LIKE MY FAVORITE BAND IN THE WORLD.... WELL APART FROM THIS ONE OTHER BAND...


Posted by MF DU on 2008-04-09 22:43:27 +0000
Did Humanwine seem to forget about half the board that posted in defense of Humanwine? I felt guilty after my first round of wisecracks after reading Conor et. al's well stated arguments of being inclusive and welcoming new members to our rideside community, but after Humanwine's latest content, I am mad at myself for distrusting my first impulse which was the correct one. The internet is a big place man, if you don't like our site, please go give WBCN.com or the noise board some more hits.

Posted by ConorClockwise on 2008-04-10 05:00:54 +0000
I think HUMANWINE likes rs.n, and I learned something from their posts. And we got a new header! It's fun to slam new members, (We all know I've done a shitload of it, like when I nailed Duncan Wilder J, yet MF DU said, 'welcome to rs.n') but I'm trying to tone it down a bit.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-04-10 00:17:16 +0000
HUMANWINE, if I may: When I said: "so much for that 'band can't have been involved with a major label' rule," that was an indictment on WBCN; not you guys. It's not like the Rumble's entirely perfect. Bleu won because Oedipus, WBCN's station director, helped Bleu get a record contract with Columbia, and they needed a Rumble win to make it look organic. The Sheila Divine were, for all intents and purposes, signed with a major label before they won (Roadrunner is owned by Warner Brothers). I asked Shred why you guys weren't in it last year, he said you weren't up for consideration because you're on a major label. In short: there's no moral absolutes in a complex world! The only people who get worked up about the Rumble are those who are competing in it. Lord knows, I went to every night to scout out the bands we went up against. Adam Glasseye did the same thing. Big deal. It didn't help us either way as both our bands lost the semis -- which proves the only wild card in these contests are the judges. Being in a band is fucking hard enough. Worrying about what people say about you on messageboards is just making it harder. You guys are great. My fiancee bought your CD when we did one of those shows together. Now, you made it to the money round; chill out and have a pizza or something.

Posted by dyedon8 on 2008-04-10 03:58:25 +0000
Being in a band is fucking hard enough. Worrying about what people say about you on messageboards is just making it harder. Yes.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-04-10 05:09:22 +0000
My prespective might be a bit skewed, but... ...I've been friends with most people on this board for at least 10-15 years. The ones I don't know well are friends of those friends - so, people I trust. While I live with the fact that this is the internet and any old yahoo can read my "ha ha aren't we silly" and "omg I love this album" conversations with y'all, I feel distinctly uncomfortable with someone who is not a dear friend or a friend of a dear friend posting on here, especially if it's to say "I'm so much awesomer and cooler than you and your lame friends are". And our stupid hair is so '82. I mean - fuck off.

Posted by G lib on 2008-04-10 13:36:44 +0000
My question is: Are you M@ or Holly, or one of the nervous relatives?

Posted by G lib on 2008-04-10 13:43:21 +0000
I disagree. You are much cooler than us. But guess who was pretty damn awesome 5-10 years ago? That would be us.

Posted by pamsterdam on 2008-04-10 13:50:32 +0000
Are you hitting on me? ;o)

Posted by virtue on 2008-04-10 14:54:37 +0000
I believe the thanks for the warmth came in the last paragraph.

Posted by HUMANWINE on 2008-04-11 07:06:40 +0000
hello mahatma chani, WBCN asked HUMANWINE to be in the Rumble last year but we were leaving for a mini tour of the East Coast and we were not actually going to be here during the Rumble so we declined the offer. G lib, all of the above. ** Thanks for your honesty. It is obvious you are a family, it admirable, keep tight. *** We were doing a search on our name one night and your board came up. We figured we would try to clear things up.(by giving links to the bands that were playing in the rumble. We won't be bugging you any more.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-04-14 14:21:27 +0000
I talked myself out of Andrea Gillis, when I should have listened to the overwhelming fact that she's in the Rudds and for some inexplicable reason this town worships that act. Otherwise, 5 for 6 correct. For ze finals: I've got HUMANWINE, The Great Bandini and A.K.A.C.O.D.

Posted by mahatma chani on 2008-04-26 14:38:41 +0000
I hit the finals with Jake and Morgan last night. Girls Guns and Glory won it. Couple thoughts: I know 2/3rds of A.K.A.C.O.D. is Morphine and they got this sort of butchy lead singer, but I mean, seriously guys. Isn't there anything sacred anymore than doing this Grade Z impersonation of your previous band? You didn't stop to think for like two seconds, maybe we should add a guitar or a keyboard or something? Nope, it's still 2 string bass, sax and drums. Mark Sandman at least had charisma and memorable melodies. GGG played it real safe. Though the did play both types of music: country and western. Nothing particularly memorable about the set, save for the pedestrian cover of "Folsom Prison Blues." The Great Bandini had hooks, looked like they were a rock band, had more than a couple songs, but never really left that "Big Star" zone. The nebulous area where you totally eat up the competent/pretty music as you're listening to it, but you walk away from it wihtout any ability to remember any of the songs. So it boiled down to this question -- Who do you want to listen to: Morphine, "Johnny Cash" (quotes because GGG was absolutely nowhere close to being as good as the man in black), or Big Star? The answers to that are, of course: "I hardly ever to Morphine and Big Star." So GGG wins by default. Last night was the manifestation of the phenomenon of "rockabilly retirement;" the time when skins and punks get too old, discover pomade and music from the 1950s.

Posted by doublegroundsuperfinemustard on 2008-05-12 16:25:44 +0000
Actually, we weren't asked. Perhaps we're irrelevant already!

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