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Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-06 11:08:20 +0000

Graffiti n' stuff

A day of talking about graffiti is going on at the ICA on Saturday Apr 4 all day:

<a href = "http://www.icaboston.org/programs/talks/design-agent/?event_id=6906032">A full day of conversation on design and culture</a>

Through a full day of presentations, interviews, gallery tours, author talks, and more, this program considers the place of Shepard Fairey's work in a powerful design history of civic empowerment and resistance, seeks to understand how images resonate and gain momentum, examines the latest trends in communication and messaging, and discusses the implicit challenges of social agency in design.

Featuring speakers from fields of design, street art, music, and advertising, the programs explore the intersection of visual culture and social transformation, and how our understanding of originality, plagiarism, legality, and the artistic process has been exploded.
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It's 25 bucks. Looks like it's worth it, and I'll probably be going, if any of you are into it and want to go, too.


Posted by tgl on 2009-02-06 12:12:42 +0000
Fairey's on WBUR today... On Point or Radio Boston or Talk of the Town or some such thing.
Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-06 12:18:47 +0000
The AP are a bunch of asshats for suing him for copyright infringement over that Obama photo. I can't imagine the case will go anywhere.
Posted by MF DU on 2009-02-06 12:25:59 +0000
Huge fan of the Andre The Giant has a posse stuff. Liked the 'Henry Rollins Show' art he contributed as well.

That said, I dont think it would hurt Fairey to give a little more credit to some of his sources.

Did anyone read this piece in the <a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/outofline/2009/02/how_phony_is_shepard_fairey.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed6">glob</a>?

Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-06 12:43:25 +0000
I think the fact that he unapologetically owns up to it is credit enough. It sounds like if people ask him about the similarities, he'll say, Yeah, I appropriated that, I thought it looked pretty cool. That said, he could be a little less obvious about his sources - I like his stuff, but the best stuff steals from other sources so that you can't tell where it came from.
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-06 12:46:18 +0000
Didn't see that. There was a bit on the AP's lawsuit on ATC last night. I'm not sure Fairey's a fraud... however, he could be a bit magnanimous to his sources.

Give credit were credit is due. I think the "fair use" defense is fine, however, I do think we've crossed a line somewhere. Copyright, Intellectual Property and Patent law is draconian, hurtful, and makes no sense. The current age of Napster and mashups is sort of a backlash to that.

Artist's should attribute their sources.
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-06 12:55:44 +0000
The problem is that you don't always have Fairey standing next to his work. It's not on Fairey's shoulder's alone, though.

...I can't seem to find the GQ or Time cover with the Fairey "Hope" image. The magazine only attributes Fairey, and not the AP or the original photographer (Mannie Garcia). I guess I'm not sure how Fairey goes about getting other's to comply with his citation, or how he makes his citation in the first place...
Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-06 13:08:31 +0000
In thinking about this further, I think:
a) the AP should butt out.
b) whatever the title of this "Hope" painting is, directly after it should be (after Garcia). And if Fairey doesn't do that, Garcia should sue.
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-06 13:27:06 +0000
After reading <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hOTbXzKYBl7XpgmuwW9Q0WiDMKhg">this</a>, I concur that the AP is overreaching. If Garcia wanted to make claims, that'd be different... doesn't sound like the photographer even realize the provenance of the image at first.
Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-06 13:43:34 +0000
"Fair use allows for the use of copyrighted material in certain cases and for specific purposes and is most generally invoked in the United States by news organizations." You've gotta love the irony.
Posted by dyedon8 on 2009-02-06 21:33:42 +0000
The people who have been making the biggest stink about Fairey re: his swipes have been the ones who didn't get the jokes. At what point does responsibility shift from artist to viewer?
Posted by dyedon8 on 2009-02-07 03:15:49 +0000
<a href ="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/02/07/obama_hope_poster_artist_arrested_in_boston/"> Busted! </a>
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-07 11:25:49 +0000
I'd say Dan Wasserman knows exactly what Fairey is citing.
Posted by MF DU on 2009-02-07 11:31:33 +0000
$500 a ticket for some Shep F. Techno? - Wow - I am getting old...
Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-07 12:15:35 +0000
Score 1 for the AP vice squad!
Posted by ConorClockwise on 2009-02-07 12:34:30 +0000
Chortle.

I think the show would have been amazing to go to, obviously not for the music, but for the opening of a stellar and important artist, who has his FIRST solo show here in Boston (Which is weird, he went to RISD, and lives in San Fran. I say Boston gets props here too.)
Plus 1 scene point if you made it in to the show.
Posted by dyedon8 on 2009-02-07 14:27:36 +0000
I got the impression, from the article, that Wasserman based his critique off someone else's.
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-09 10:19:17 +0000
A+
Posted by tgl on 2009-02-09 10:20:34 +0000
The BPD spokesman this morning: "The timing is what the timing is".

Fairey appeared with Menino the day before his arrest. Great PR.

Posted by tgl on 2009-02-10 00:20:00 +0000
<a href="http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/2009/02/shepard-fairey-sues-ap-over-obama.html">Who is suing who?</a>

UPDATE: Sounds like the AP claimed infringement, and are in negotiations with Fairey's lawyers. Obey Giant, Inc has now filed suit against the AP.
Posted by TheFullCleveland on 2009-02-10 00:26:59 +0000
The plot thickens! Not sure what I think of all this, but I'm sure enjoying this cops v. artist v. corporate entity narrative.
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